personalinjurysource.mobi, Lies and Deception, #SpamThemBack

Let’s get the important stuff out the way first:

Do not: use this company and do not submit your details to them.

Do: Fill in fake details and submit them. Most importantly, make them look totally plausible.

This morning, another spam text message arrived on my phone. Allegedly sent from a number 07752902112

£2612.84 is waiting in your name, its compensation for the accident you had, to get it sent out ASAP fille out the form at http://www.personalinjurysource.mobi.

As a commenter on my previous post UkSpeedyCash Spammers, Dodgy as Hell kindly commented, this sort of marketing is illegal:

The Privacy and Electronic Communications (EC Directive) Regulations 2003 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2003/2426/contents/made

In sections 22(1) says:

“Except in the circumstances referred to in paragraph (3), a person shall neither transmit, nor instigate the transmission of, unsolicited communications for the purposes of direct marketing by means of electronic mail unless the recipient of the electronic mail has previously notified the sender that he consents for the time being to such communications being sent by, or at the instigation of, the sender.”

and section 2(1) says:

““electronic mail” means any text, voice, sound or image message sent over a public electronic communications network which can be stored in the network or in the recipient’s terminal equipment until it is collected by the recipient and includes messages sent using a short message service;”

Lies

So what are they lying about? Well, look at the text at the foot of the screen:

These details will be sent over a verified secure connection-there are NO FEES or charges for using our personal injury claim service.
Contact Us: info@personalinjurysource.mobi

Lie 1

When you send information over a secure connection, you send it via a page with security enabled. This is via a site that starts with https and has a verified digital certificate. Your browser should display a padlock image of some sort. I’ve use the RBS site to demonstrate a safe and trusted secure connection:

padlock

Not all https sites are safe. if there is an issue, your browser ought to pick up on this:

padlock_error

But some don’t have it at all. PersonalInjurySource.mobi are just such a site:

personalinjurysource_no_httpsAdd Media

This means if you submit your details, it will be subject to malicious interception and leave you prone to identity theft:

Lie 2

They state that there are “No fees or charges”. Sorry? What? This company is not acting in the public good. You will incur a charge  in some way, just not maybe the most transparent way.

Other problems

They have no privacy policy. They do not state what they will do with your data. They could (and probably will) see it to anyone. Again, please submit fake info on their page, as it will make life so much more difficult for them.

Who are they?

Their whois record (the record of who registered the domain name) references a privacy protection service. This prevents the details of who owns the name from being published.

Here it is: http://www.whois.com/whois/personalinjurysource.mobi

Legitimate companies have no reason to hide this. The only reason to hide this is to hide the true source, and the inevitable trail of deception. In my previous email  UkSpeedyCash Spammers, Dodgy as Hell, I highlighted what can be inferred from tracing a whois record. We find out that the company itself is linked to a text spamming company.

#SpamThemBack

It’s simple – they spammed you, you spam them back by submitting fake but plausible details. If you’re on twitter, use the hashtag #SpamThemBack to highlight this.

 

 

16 thoughts on “personalinjurysource.mobi, Lies and Deception, #SpamThemBack

  1. I have had calls many from ‘private number’, so many that I actually answered one! I was told it was ‘Personal Claims Network’, yet I can’t find that company or a number for it. Apparently it was them that left a voice message saying that they were already processing a claim on my behalf. When I asked the girl if this was true, she hung up! I thought I would ring back and tell them what I thought about that!

  2. what bollox and I’ve actually had a life changing accident . this false hope is discussing!! sum one shud be shot for this!! #ANgry

  3. Hi James
    I understand you have previously done some digging against Sandhurst Associates Ltd.
    Do you have a link to that material?
    They’ve currently broken regs by continuing to send me unsolicited texts and I’m currently nuisance calling the ico office every time they do to motivate them to make a case against these spammers.
    Any ammo would be appreciated 🙂
    Thanks
    Neil

  4. Hi there, an interesting Blog. I went for a different approach. I entered false info, but a real number. What these guys are after is mobile numbers. If the text is not rejected they know iitsw a real number and can sell the numbers on.

    Filling in the details creates a lead. After entering my details i got called by consumer claims. Once i had identified the number i could complain, well rant at them. Suprisingly, they where quite helpful. After all they are simply calling “reliable” numbers supplied by a third party. Interestingly the rather useless agent that called me from them has been suspended, They also provided me with the name of the company they got the number from.

    http://globelmarketingsolutions.com/ based in Cardiff appear to be the company that sold them the number. I am awaiting a response but my guess is they don’t actually send the texts but almost certainly “buy” numbers from the scum that do.

    These numbers are not about identity theft but about making money. Automated texts get sent out and those that get rejected by the network are rejected, those that are not will continue to receive texts.

    It also doesn’t matter what you reply back as the texts are never read by a person, it just registers a reply as a positive response.

    • Thanks so much for the comment, very interesting.

      I realise that it’s not about identity theft, however, the insecure nature of the website leaves it prone.

      • Well, it gets more interesting. I had no idea of the sheer scale of these things. I got contacted this week by a few callers using details given on the website personalinjurysource.mobi. False details obviously, but left a real number. I am getting the calls anyway so may as well have fun.

        Now they are calling via a company called media tactics, who inform me THEY got the data from another marketing company called thedatapartnership.com. I awaiting there response.

        Its crazy, it looks like the person running Globel media is a guy living running a business from a house. He has convictions, according to google for cannabis use and cultivation. So assuming he harvested the numbers and set up the phoney web sites, he then has a list of numbers.

        Then it gets really surreal. There are literally hundreds of sellers, and indeed buyers of these numbers. A “live” number is created just by your phone recieving a text. This is of limited value.

        A high value number is an “opt in” number, so if you added your number to anything anywhere, or to the phony website above, you number rockets in value to several pounds, per number.

        There are discussion groups where these lists are being traded, including linked in, for hundreds of pounds a time.

        So a quick way for someone to make a quick bit of cash? certainly it looks like it as the regulators appear unable to react to these people. So far my number has been “traded” to at least five different marketing companies in a few weeks. By the time you get pestered by phone calls the company will believe they have, in all good faith have a number of a potential client, worth hundreds of pound in commission.

        Meanwhile, the original individual ,who texted you and harvested your number, all via an autodialer and a pc gets cash to buy more drugs.

        • Really interesting. Still sounds to me though that if you’re willing to accept the number of spam calls that it’s a good way to undermine the business model of these folks.

          The cumulative effect of 1000s of people doing this would definitely undermine the business model.

          • Recently, I completed PIS’s online form with my mobile no., but a false name – so that I’d know the origin of the call. Blow me down, I had 4 calls from 3 companies in under a week! Happily told them all that PIS is obviously selling detials to more than 1 company- hope that will cause a bit of trouble for them.

    • yep, the b******s usually wake me up at about one in the morning ,even yesterday on my birthday. i have replied F*** OFF DON’T EVER CALL ME ,TXT ME AGAIN , my solicitors will take your NUMBER and deal with you. It worked for 2 months now at it ever day, AAAARRRRRGGGHHH. HELP. thanx for info guy’sx

  5. The saga continues; I had a call 30mins ago from some call centre monkey, as I’d completed personalinjurysource’s online form in a phony name. He asked me the nature of my injury & I said I fell down the stairs at home (ie, no-one else’s fault) He asked for my address & postcaode, I made something up & he said “Fine, a solicitor will call you.” Thought I’d heard the last of it, but no, another call from Accident Advice Helpline. A nice woman, I explained how it all started with a false text re. the cheque for £2612.84 &asked for personalinjurysource’s address so that I can take legal action against them – which I certainly intend to do, for their lying text.
    Stand by for the next instalment……..

  6. Had a phone call today, re. the online form I completed, but from another company – not personalinjurysource.mobi, but Total Claims Network. Kept her talking for a good 4 minutes before she hung up in frustration! Another small victory over the spammers.

    • Good stuff. We should keep a tally on who can waste the most time. I was very pleased when I was once told to f*** off when he realised I was wasting his time. 🙂

      #SpamThemBack

  7. very USEFUL. i TEND TO REPLY WITH THE MESSAGE F*** OFF YOU C****. DOES WORK OCCASIONALLY keep up the good work

    • I was up in Town last week,& anyone who’s ever been in a central London phonebox will know they are FULL of cards advertising “ladies of the night.” So I grabbed as many as I could and entered the girls’ names & phone no’s on PSI’s forms.
      IMO, they deserve all they get; if they just said “ever had an accident? make a claim” etc I wouldnt mind. But to text me saying “a cheque for £2814 in your name is waiting to be sent out” is a LIE & I wont stand for being lied to. I’ve had the same message from 4 numbers now- you think they’d take the hint & delete me from their list.

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